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Feb 5Edited

As per the below comments, this is another great essay introducing me to and giving name to many enlightening concepts I would like to learn more about! From first read (and this is definitely an over simplification using popular culture) the central theme of this essay reminds me of the magpie scene from the Detectorists (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU18QVfzFDc): Lance tries to take a photo of his unearthed gold coin, even trying to recreate the moment, only for it to be stolen by a magpie, with the writers presumably symbolising that Lance, through trying to even take a photo and announce his experience to Andy, sets himself up to steal his own joy.

Knowing the author, I do wonder if a adding a note on their own personal experiences could be beneficial and whether their essays have changed their own climbing habits or how they reflect on their previous ones (this could be especially insightful for other friends as well). For example, when I first met him, I started following the author's YouTube channel and was inspired to potentially one day try the climbs he had recorded him or his partner trying &/or sending in said videos. I would indeed like to invite the author to reflect on this: do you now see having made climbing videos as having eroded your intrinsic experience and memory of them (like the comment from Post Scarcity Investments), do you feel maybe your own views have changed with the essays you've written, or do you see that there were some positives to making videos as well in the sense that they can be inspiring for others?

(NB I hope this comment is not read as a criticism &/or an accusation of hypocrisy, rather a musing that could add further depth and endearment to the author's strong arguments).

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I’ve noticed lots of these points over the last 3 years I’ve been climbing — one minute I’m ’really climbing’ and then all of a sudden I’m repeating it for the camera.

That being said, recently I have found myself a lot more present (and therefore am spending more time climbing in the ‘perfect flow’, really experiencing and feeling instead of just getting to the top), and in being in such a state I’ve found the occasions that I do record aren’t affecting me whatsoever.

I wonder if this is something that can be balanced, or if I should be questioning the need I sometimes feel to film - what’s the point of me recording at all? To share with people? Maybe if I had a message to share it would be of at least some value?

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